You may have heard talk about deep state, secret government, false flags, genetically-targeted biological weapons, corruption, secret societies, China, Iran, Iraq, Israel, Japan, ETs, Reptilians and so on. This interview touches on all those things and more.

In January 2010, Bill Ryan of Project Camelot interviewed a man (W for “Witness”) who was present during conversations the “over-government” held in the UK in June 2005, in which they openly discussed plans for our suppression, schemes for more chaos, and their eventual takeover of the planet.

Excerpts from the interview appear indented, in gray italic type. My comments are in black and are flush left.

Project Camelot 2010 | The Anglo-Saxon Mission | Witness Interview (transcript)

W:  How can I describe the people who I’m talking about better? The people who I’m talking about are people who exude power. They elicit fear.  They demand obedience and by God do they get it! And by the way they talk they’re dictating to the so-called elected governments that we’ve got in Parliament or in Washington or in Berlin or in Paris. These people exude that kind of power, and beyond that what can I say?

I’m sure other people have come across characters like that in their lives. There’s not a compassionate bone in their body. They do not resonate any spiritual warmth whatsoever. They’re cold, they’re calculating. To use a phrase that’s common here, “butter wouldn’t melt in their mouth”.

And my perception is that this intelligence is incredibly logical, without any empathy, without any love, care, understanding or compassion. They’re cold and calculating and logical beyond any logic that we could muster normally. They go well beyond that — they’re such supremely intelligent people. These are people who can produce answers to really difficult questions without blinking an eye. They are very, very bright people, but bright only in the sense that their logic is extraordinary.

W says that although they are very powerful figures and have been working on this plan for millennia, they are now behind schedule and their goal of absolute control over the planet will not come to pass. Our part is to not serve them and their purpose.

W:  We will endure. But to endure, from one person to the next, is not to work for them anymore. It’s to stop working for them. It’s not to react violently against them because they’ll win. They would love that to happen, then it gives them an excuse. They breed on fear and violence — the reaction from fear. That would be like bees to honey for them. They would love that to happen.

What’s needed is non-violent reaction: simply just not doing the job for them any more… Just stop working for them. Take your labor away because they need the troops who are going to do this work. We’re not just talking about people in the military. We’re talking about every civilian member in all the populations right across the globe. Just say: No, because this is not us. This is not what we want to do.

We humans are waking up – and stepping up – and that is something they did not factor into their plan. What else they did not anticipate was that their choice for U.S. President would lose the 2016 election. President Trump and his team know who they are, what they have done and what they planned. “Draining the swamp” is the last thing they wanted. They are desperate now; thrashing about, revealing the ugliness behind their “Eyes Wide Shut” masks.

(See also Kerth Barker’s books and especially RV-UFO-NWO : Remote Viewing, Ufology & The Alien New World Order.)

Our victory, says this Witness in this interview, lies in our waking up to the fact that we can either be captive to fear or be free.

W:  We all want our lives; we all cherish our lives; everybody does. We love our lives and we want to experience them fully in all ways, in the best way we possibly can.

We’re currently being prevented from doing so because of this regime, which is based in fear; it’s all about fear. And the greatest fear that we’ve got physically is fear of death, and that’s part of the greatest power that they’ve got over us, is this type of fear, this anxiety that they can raise or lower — which they’re doing all the time.

I can’t think of a moment when this hasn’t happened, when this fear doesn’t come out and then we react to it the way that we do. It seems perfectly natural. But what happens when we don’t, stop feeling this and say: “Well, it’s only fear. We can get over this,” then that’s tapping into who we really are.

I don’t yet believe there are enough people around at the moment who know who they are. They define themselves by their own physical existence, which is all fear-based, and it’s cyclical, and they just can’t get out of it. And obviously they need to find their way out of it…

People wakening up, finding out what’s going on around them and really having a good look, and raising their conscious levels as they’ve never done before, and then everything will click into place quite quickly. And when it does, the power that these people have will just fall off them like a towel, you know, just fall right off them, and they’ll be exposed for what they are.

Read the entire interview to gain clues for moving more gracefully through these very difficult and intense times. Now, in 2020, you can see that although the “over-government” wet dream of a Chinese flu epidemic is in the news (which they control), their overall power grip is slipping. Some today say the hoped-for flu depopulation scheme is not going to happen.

B:  Another question I’d like to ask you, and it’s a fascinating one to debate among people who are tuned in to this whole area, is a personal one: why do you feel that the benevolent ETs, and I’m sure that they exist, why do you think that they don’t step in to say: Okay, guys, normally we’re hands-off, but this is getting serious here and we’re not going to allow this to happen. Is that possible? Why do they maintain such a distance?

W: Well, first things first. “These benevolent ETs” — I don’t actually like calling them “ETs”… I believe that these people are us and we are them.

B: Yes.

W: They’ve been around for a lot longer than the regime that’s in power at the moment. This present regime, this power-based regime, some have called them reptilians, and I’ve got no problem at all calling them that because that’s exactly what they’re like — totally cold-hearted. They’ve been around much, much longer and they’re the ones who have really made humanity what it is today.

Interventions? I believe they’ve been intervening in the best ways that they can. But we’re talking about very spiritually evolved beings, as the human race is very spiritually evolved — maybe that’s why we come back here so often, back to this planet.

But for these people who are us and we are them, as I mentioned, they don’t see time the same way that we understand time here within the physical world. For them, 11,500 years ago was a blink of an eye. It was nothing, and they already know what the endgame is going to be. They believe, as I believe, that this regime that’s in power at the moment who wish this total dominance over the Earth and everything that’s in it, are not going to win. They’re having their time now and their time is about to end…

Read much more of this very fascinating and informative interview at http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/anglo_saxon_mission_interview_transcript_en.html and read more of Bill’s commentary here: http://projectcamelot.org/anglo_saxon_mission.html